Tendency to make Editors..

[Hardcoal]

Every time I'm trying to make a game..
I tend to fall into the Editor Trap..

I mean its almost inevitable not to.
this does not happen to me when I make other things..

anyways.. you need an Editor if your game need maps and so on.
you cant bypass it..
Im trying this time to concentrate more on a game and let an Editor develop itself..

But My main concentration will be a Game.

Even a simple one.
Just to break the curse of repeating myself with making Editors.

Lets hope ill make it

[Baggey]

Editors as in IDE's 

If you make a simple what style will it be Retro, Cartoon or hi pixel graphics.

What was your favorite arcade game as a kid?

One of the things id like todo is have crack at an editor but im going down the path of looking into BlitzmaxNG open source stuff. As i have no idea how one really works.

[Dabzy]

Editors as in IDE's

I think he's more referring towards editor for the game{s}, like, a tilemap editor, or a droplet app... Which you do your doings in it for said "games", so you can save then load the file with the games data.

Dabz

[Baggey]

Editors as in IDE's

I think he's more referring towards editor for the game{s}, like, a tilemap editor, or a droplet app... Which you do your doings in it for said "games", so you can save then load the file with the games data.

Dabz

Ah, i havent come across the need to do that yet but i suppose having a .png of all the 8 x 8 chars and loading them into a pixmap array is a similar form of a very basic editor 

[Dabzy]

It's a common thing, sometimes you might want to build an external one, you may want to build one "in-game", where you dot inbetween game mode and editor mode, there is also ones you can download, like Tiled:

https://www.mapeditor.org/

If you look, their everywhere, but in the most part, rolling your own is usually best because you can be more specific with your needs.

Dabz

[Baggey]

but in the most part, rolling your own is usually best because you can be more specific with your needs.

Dabsy i think you made a Spelling mistake with needs 

So Editors or IDE Editor. Is Defo on my bucket list. Your Lauch pad IDE is something id like to do with open source BlitzmaxNG and make a few personnel tweaks to the Syntax.

[RemiD]

you need an Editor if your game need maps and so on

for simple games, you can use an image editor (or a text editor), and use pixels (or chars) to make maps with different layers...

[RemiD]

talking about map editors, this reminds me that i have a 'hero quest' game to finish, someday.
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[Hardcoal]

IDE is for Code Editor Is For Building Maps and the rest..
You can get along without an Editor.
But its like working in med evil times..

Anyways.. my point is.. I have a lot of experience making an Editor.
But now I want to make A Game.. more than I want to make an Editor..
So the solution is to concentrate on the Game and not on the perfect Editor.

I made that mistake years ago.. spending all my energy over trying to make an Editor.. And Game Framework, while what i love doing is Games..

so now, this is not gonna happen. I wont make the same mistake.

Even making a simple game will please me.

lets see it happen finally

[RemiD]

a benevolent advice :
remove 'perfect' from your vocabulary / thoughts / ways to do things, and aim for 'good enough'.
this will simplify your life a lot !

[Hardcoal]

remove 'perfect' from your vocabulary / thoughts / ways to do things

now youre telling me 

Yea man.. Im now much wiser.. but you should have told me that 20 years ago

[Baggey]

Even making a simple game will please me.

lets see it happen finally

Im not sure of your age. But if you remember when games first sort off appeared in Arcades.

You had :- Space invaders, Pac-man, Donkey kong, Asteroids, Defender.

These are simple enough to be interesting to play. You already have the knowledge for coding. So why not start there.

Or even simpler look at some of the ZX81 stuff or Vic 20 games.

Im not worried about looks yet ive just been trying to capture the game to play nice. Hopefully peeps will want another go and be prepeard to hit that buy me a Beer BUTTON

Kind Regards Baggey

[Hardcoal]

even simpler look at some of the ZX81 stuff or Vic 20 games.

Even if my game will be 2 Rects.. jumping
ill be pleased,

I can do good looking things if I want, but that's not the main thing.

Im gonna break the ice soon and release a game.

Im 50+ btw

i made a game in amiga and tried to make game in commodore..
i made in commodore sprite editor lol writing directly in assembler

i could have done amazing things back than because i was way ahead of my time
but i wasted this opportunity because i had no control over myself
and tried to make complex things.

i remember at age 16 or so i made a equation solver  where you give
the computer a formula with X like X+2X*(67)=4X/15
and it solved it and showed you the process as well.

and i wrote that in commodore 64 basics

anyways.. back than you had to build even the scroll of the screen.

my main point is that ive always went around games
but never actually made a game or at least didnt finish one

Accept one card memory game on Amiga that ive actually finished

I will try to break to editor Curse

[Baggey]

anyways.. back than you had to build even the scroll of the screen.

This is the sad thing i think about today everybody looks for an engine!?
You will have more Fun starting the game from scractch and learn all the bits needed. Then you understand!

Sadly people want Scroll my screen. But what really happens behind that. Well you'll need pointers to the surface. Know the dimensions. The pixel width, ARGB type etc... and scroll through line by line. ie pixel by pixel. Sadly this is being overlooked more and more.

Thats why i like Retro Programming. You are the true creator and the skill that it needs. Much more FUN!

Call it adult lego if you will.

So what game do you think you'll try?

i remember at age 16 or so i made a equation solver  where you give
the computer a formula with X like X+2X*(67)=4X/15
and it solved it and showed you the process as well.

This is interesting stuff Algebra and Equation solving of repeated roots etc.. I remember differentiation where you set about solving in a methodical pattern. Sadly i forgot about this! The grey matter is disappearing rapidly

With what i know now writing a program to do these things even teach. Would be a useful tool to have at hand. Some might say thats cheating? To me a learner could see where they made the mistake and learn from it. But we have AI now 

[mrmediamanx]

I generally write my own tools right into my game's.
Basically, exports all placed object's X,Y,Z,PITCH,YAW,ROLL out as a text doc.
I use my 3d modeling tool to make levels/scenes.
If it works, it works.