Competition (1) - The Type-In Trial Result

[Jackdaw]

@Dabzy One of the things I was thinking of if and when the next competition is held. That it should be written in only the one language. I was thinking that it could be java with libGDX, but BBC SDL may be a better choice.

[Dabzy]

@Jackdaw - Now that, is a very good idea me auld fruit!

Dabz

[Steve Elliott]

Oh ok, so we only have to use the language *you* choose. No thanks lol. 

Just supply an exe with media and write it in whatever language you like!

[Dabzy]

Well, I think it's a good idea, because a) I didnt know that existed and b) I've never used BBC Basic in a very very long time...

The amount of break times I spent tinkering with it at school (Before they were replaced with the Archimedes) was proper shocking! lol

But, if people are'nt keen, then fair play, nothing wrong with floating idea's up in the air, taking into consideration, my last attempt at a competition was, somewhat, hammered! hehehe

If it's a "Any language" compo, then float idea's up for themes or limitations etc etc

Dabz

[Steve Elliott]

BBC BASIC is known and respected for being very capable and efficient. Back in the day I was so impressed and at the same time dissapointed at the benchmarks for my ZX Spectrum BASIC in comparison. Sir Clive cutting corners again!

For me personally I only knew 2 mates that had BBC Micros, their parents weren't exactly poor lol. I'm a bit older so they weren't in our school (Research Machines instead). Later I owned an Archimedes (with BBC BASIC) but used C instead.

Today thanks to Ebay I have both a BBC Micro and an Archimedes (sold my Arch some time ago). But I have no reason to return to BASIC.

Today there are soo many computer languages (and engines and libs) that some people do not have installed on their computer! Dabz just don't make it about installing and learning a language before you even write anything ffs mate lol! 

Like I said, just let people supply an exe that runs on Windows at least and they can supply versions for Mac and Linux if they want. Simples.

[Dabzy]

Today there are soo many computer languages (and engines and libs) that some people do not have installed on their computer! Dabz just don't make it about installing and learning a language before you even write anything ffs mate lol! 

I only said it was a very good idea, I like it... Nothing wrong with that?

And, like I said at the end of the last competition, you's will be deciding amongst yourselves, I'll be taking a step back on that front, doesnt and shouldnt stop me from having a view on ideas from anyone though.

Dabz

[Steve Elliott]

I'm just not going to install software I will never use again, learn the language/lib and then try and write something in it.

And the main point is not everybody will either. So who will judge the competition if not many can actually run the program?!

Just supply an exe, if people want to try out a new language or lib then good on them, but people need to be able to see the program running.

Just saying the last competition was the same mate, some random languages and libs were used and not everybody could actually run them. Just supply an exe and opinions do not matter.

[Dabzy]

I'm just not going to install software I will never use again, learn the language/lib and then try and write something in it.

And the main point is not everybody will either. So who will judge the competition if not many can actually run the program?!

Just supply an exe, if people want to try out a new language or lib then good on them, but people need to be able to see the program running.

Calm down sausage, JackDaws post was a suggestion, idea and I liked it... What is the big deal?

You have stated your not keen, which is fair enough... How about suggesting something, you know, all you could of done is posted "Well, how about just a plain old GameJam?" or "Halloween is coming, so how about the theme is Halloween, and the deal line should be All Hallows' Eve"

How about trying that angle, people might get on board with such a thing, you know, instead of arguing over something which isnt anything?

Dabz

[Baggey]

I remember one of the last copmo's over at the old forum.

QUBE made a karate type saga game and XERRA did a remake of a VIC20 game.

What was wrong with those?

I mean all this Copyright infingement crap that's going on! Boils my P&&S!

Ive yet to finish my Alien DropOUT which is nearly 40 Years old now.

My idea would be to do a Remake like 

Maybe limit it to one style of game. So we can see how well it compares to the original and little tweaks added. Just saying like.

I think BBC SDL does do .exe's for windows? Id be sticking to BlitmaxNG though

Kind Regards Baggey

[Dabzy]

The copyright thing is indeed a nuisance, but if it is to be a remake one and that's what people want to do, there is workarounds for such a thing.

I've already been spanked off Atari lawyers with a C&D, and had an app taken off Google Play, just because it had "Asteroid" in the title, but it wasn't actually a clone... It was just because I used a word and the game was vector based... Still, it's not nice when that happens, and I havent got the means or will to challenge that, I just had to accept it as a bad job.

But if anyone was going to make an souped up Asteroid clone, great, I love Asteroids and the likes, like Thrust...

Okay, old games from the 80's might not get as much attention, some do of course, but the majority don't, but you do have to try not to draw attention, so if it's an Asteroids clone, just don't name the bugger Asteroids!

Dabz

[Jackdaw]

I've already been spanked off Atari lawyers with a C&D, and had an app taken off Google Play, just because it had "Asteroid" in the title, but it wasn't actually a clone... It was just because I used a word and the game was vector based... Still, it's not nice when that happens, and I havent got the means or will to challenge that, I just had to accept it as a bad job.

I know that feeling. Had to take down my own version from my own website when I had one.

[Steve Elliott]

I'm perfectly calm lol, text online is not a good way to judge somebody - no matter how many mates or emojis I add. 

But I'm just frustrated that you can't understand why having people supply random language code maybe with a lib to download is a bad idea in a competition.

Let people enter COBOL or Pascal or Lisp programs. But nobody will be able to judge it - because they can't run it. A working program is the only sensible option.

Just get away from the language you use and we can throw in some suggestions on what the theme should be.

[Steve Elliott]

Yeah Atari are releasing old software titles on replica consoles to this day so I can see why they chased you off Dabz.

As an example with Defender back then, well Dropzone was allowed! And I've seen a modern version from somebody we know and no problems. It seems if you make a 'mash-up' of several titles you should be ok.

So that would be my suggestion a 'Mash-up' competition, where you take 2 or more games and make a version that was a mash-up of them. 

And supply an exe so we can run it.

[Baggey]

The copyright thing is indeed a nuisance, but if it is to be a remake one and that's what people want to do, there is workarounds for such a thing.

I've already been spanked off Atari lawyers with a C&D, and had an app taken off Google Play, just because it had "Asteroid" in the title, but it wasn't actually a clone... It was just because I used a word and the game was vector based... Still, it's not nice when that happens, and I havent got the means or will to challenge that, I just had to accept it as a bad job.

But if anyone was going to make an souped up Asteroid clone, great, I love Asteroids and the likes, like Thrust...

Okay, old games from the 80's might not get as much attention, some do of course, but the majority don't, but you do have to try not to draw attention, so if it's an Asteroids clone, just don't name the bugger Asteroids!

Dabz

You used Asteroids 5 time's. Damm ive used it as well. I would of changed the name to Asteroidss. 

[Baggey]

I'm perfectly calm lol, text online is not a good way to judge somebody - no matter how many mates or emojis I add. 

But I'm just frustrated that you can't understand why having people supply random language code maybe with a lib to download is a bad idea in a competition.

Let people enter COBOL or Pascal or Lisp programs. But nobody will be able to judge it - because they can't run it. A working program is the only sensible option.

Just get away from the language you use and we can throw in some suggestions on what the theme should be.

I think random language code is alright. I think the idea was to see how they made or achieved the program. And the only way to know if they did it. Was to count the words in the code. I think that was the point.

Writing in any language i think is upto the programmer.

I feel though it should be said "What language you used and what engines you used to cheat with" I totally agree with the .exe but try and send one these days!?

So as STEVE says lets get on withe the game theme to be remade.

If the games in the compo get asked to be taken down in the name of research and study.

Will slap a big banner up saying competition removed because of self righteous idiotic morans. With nothing better else todo.

games are set in Space are you allowed that.

games have land are you allowed that.

games may have asteroids floating around.

games have enemys and if there from galaxya there going to be called Galaxians! 

The world is getting to crazy and someone needs to stand up! Ill always look like im sitting down though!

Baggey