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Title: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: Matty on Oct 02, 2025, 04:30 AM
As I've mentioned I recently acquired a new PC, upgraded from Win 7 to Win 11.

All good for the most part, a few old apps don't work very well at all though and worse: seems Microsoft's intelligent services decide to shut down apps as time goes by:

Blitz3D - worked when I first got my PC, now "SmartApp" tells me "we can't let you run this software because it might show ads you don't like, or do other malware-y things" which of course it won't, but there's no 'run anyway' option ... sigh.

Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: Dabzy on Oct 02, 2025, 05:40 AM
When using Blitz3D from itch etc etc, it tends to get flagged by Windows as being unsafe, obviously it's fine, and is a false positive... But Defender likes to chuck it's nose in anyway.

When Mark was alive, this was an issue and he tried loads of times to stop them flagging it, but it fell on deaf ears.

For me, the only real way I've found to not get nagged with Blitz3D is to build it from source, via GIT:-

https://github.com/blitz-research/blitz3d_soloud

Windows and it's "defender" tend to leave it alone that way.

Dabz
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: 3dzForMeStill on Oct 02, 2025, 06:02 AM
For crying out loud - this sucks. Good there is a work around though. 

Smartapp - Oxymoron or what.
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: Amon on Oct 03, 2025, 04:22 PM
Quote from: Dabzy on Oct 02, 2025, 05:40 AMWhen using Blitz3D from itch etc etc, it tends to get flagged by Windows as being unsafe, obviously it's fine, and is a false positive... But Defender likes to chuck it's nose in anyway.

When Mark was alive, this was an issue and he tried loads of times to stop them flagging it, but it fell on deaf ears.

For me, the only real way I've found to not get nagged with Blitz3D is to build it from source, via GIT:-

https://github.com/blitz-research/blitz3d_soloud

Windows and it's "defender" tend to leave it alone that way.

Dabz

Just did that and it plays nice now. Thanks dabzzy.
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: Jayenkai on Oct 04, 2025, 03:40 AM
Gentle reminder that, whatever you compile, might end up having the same issue.  Please dont spend months working on a project only to find it won't run on other people's systems.  Maybe you guys could post a small test.exe from this recompiled Blitz that you can double check with.
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: LineOf7s on Oct 04, 2025, 05:00 AM
As a contrary datapoint, my vanilla Blitz3D runs here on Win11 without issue.  Shrug.

What I have done is add DXWrapper (https://github.com/elishacloud/dxwrapper) to my /bin directory to enable access to higher resolutions.  It's fun to watch Adam Gores "Bird Demo" (one of the samples) in everything from 640x480 through to 2560x1440.  It's pretty. :)
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: zt958bjm on Oct 06, 2025, 03:12 PM
I'm still running Windows 7 :D
Title: Re: Windows 11,"Smart App" and my old Blitz3d copy
Post by: Amon on Oct 06, 2025, 04:47 PM
Quote from: zt958bjm on Oct 06, 2025, 03:12 PMI'm still running Windows 7 :D

Hmm! Easier than compiling...  :P