And I remember Steve Jobs brilliant idea. Where Steve Jobs didn't like fan noise, so the Apple III ended up with no fans or vents. And then wondered why they kept over heating.
The only reason Apple are still around today, is because of the iPhone.
The company that was the most innovative was Olivetti. Who's founders deaths to me seem a little suspicious with them being so close together. Especially when they tried to open a factory in the U.S.A. And the fact that they actually had a sensible workers rights before they were even a thing in the rest of Europe.
I've been the Apple route a few times, but, meh... I cannot be chewed with the whole ecosystem of it all really!
Windows p[beep]'s me off somewhat, but, it just works for me in the most part.
I do enjoy using Linux too, but, I see that more of a toy and a puzzle then something I would use every day.
Just another techno horses for courses at the end of the day, each to their own.
Dabz
I fell down the slippery slope, and am firmly entrenched in the Ecosystem.
Started back in 2012 when I spent 5 months stuck in a hospital with nothing but an early Second Generation Android device as my "everything computing + communication + entertainment" device. (HTC Wildfire, a rather apt name, IMHO)
I probably don't need to tell you how horrific that experience was.
That was why I went "ok, let's not buy a phone that I need to randomly plug into a computer to fix every few days" and bought an iphone.
.. Actually, no I didn't. First I tried the Windows/Nokia Lumia 1020, which had a lovely 41megapixel camera, which was .. amazeballs, back in the day. And that was actually a dang good phone, until Microsoft "did a Microsoft" and killed off the entire ecosystem/brand/operating system/etc.
THAT is when I moved to iPhone.
And an iPad, and then the Apple TV, and in the past 4 or 5 years, I've gradually moved to Macbook/MacOS as my primary device.
It's been ok.
The hardest part was finding new tools, and moving across all my dev-kit.
There are also a myriad of instances where I'd kill for a bit more customisation and tweaking and such.
I'm happy, though, that I can pick it up, use it, and it won't have completely knackered itself overnight. That's what I need, nowadays.
My head's not in the space for constantly reinstalling, formatting because the system's getting slower, fixing drivers, and all that.
No, I'm done with that, now. And I know (Good grief, do I know!) that it doesn't "Just work"
... But it works enough!
Those prices, though. Ugh.. Yeah, they'll make you pay, and then if you want to make use of anything, it's an extra purchase here and a subscription there, and it all adds up, alarmingly fast.
I do wish there was still an entry-level iPod Touch, or something.
The entry-level nowadays seems to be an iPad Classic. I guess that's not too bad of a device, tech wise.
OK, I'll log out again, now. I've waffled enough.
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I've never owned Mac as I've always used Windows PC's. Years ago I would have to reinstall everything every year or so and yes there were driver issues. I can honestly say though that I haven't reinstalled the OS on my main computer for over ten years, it's been updated but I haven't done any clean installs and I can't even remember the last driver issue I had.
The only recent Apple thing I've bought is a iMac M4. And I only use it for cross compiling and the macOS tweaks.
Though with me being a retro nerd, I would buy the last editions of the G3 and G4 iMac. Now they were stylish, especially the G3.
The before that, it was a 2007 iMac extreme, iTouch 1&2 and iPad 2.
Quote from: Zaxxan on Jul 26, 2025, 04:59 PMI've never owned Mac as I've always used Windows PC's. Years ago I would have to reinstall everything every year or so and yes there were driver issues. I can honestly say though that I haven't reinstalled the OS on my main computer for over ten years, it's been updated but I haven't done any clean installs and I can't even remember the last driver issue I had.
I only do a clean install when I switch internet security software to another vendor.